As the House Judiciary Committee votes on Articles of Impeachment, Dan O'Donnell moderates an important debate on impeachment between Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler and...House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler.
Dan O’Donnell: Good evening and welcome to tonight’s impeachment debate between Jerry Nadler…and Jerry Nadler. I’m Dan O’Donnell, your moderator. Mr. Nadler, let’s begin with you. Why must you impeach this president?
Jerry Nadler (2019): We do not take this action lightly, but we have taken an oath to defend the Constitution and unlike President Trump, we understand that our duty first and foremost is to protect the Constitution and to protect the interests of the American people. That is why we must take this solemn step today.
O’Donnell: Mr. Nadler, do you believe Mr. Nadler is correct? Do you believe the evidence supports impeachment?
Jerry Nadler (1998): This cannot happen. It may happen, but if it happens we won’t let them forget their contempt for the American people. They say we’re stupid, that we won’t remember this two years from now. Oh yes we will!
O’Donnell: Mr. Nadler, how do you respond to that?
Nadler (2019): The integrity of our next election is at risk from a President who has already sought foreign interference in the 2016 and 2020 elections and who consistently puts himself above country. That is why we must act now.
O’Donnell: Mr. Nadler, you disagree, saying that a narrow impeachment with no broad bipartisan support is unnecessarily divisive, correct?
Nadler (1998): An impeachment of a President is an undoing of a national election, and one of the reasons we all feel so angry about what they’re doing is that they’re ripping asunder our votes! They’re telling us that our votes don’t count and that the election must be set aside!
O’Donnell: Mr. Nadler, your response?
Nadler (2019): A President who declares himself above accountability, above the American people, and above Congress’ power of impeachment—which is meant to protect against threats to our democratic institutions—is a President who seems himself as above the law.
O’Donnell: Mr. Nadler, is that correct?
Nadler (1998): Impeaching a President when you have not got a broad consensus of the American people, a broad agreement of almost everybody that this fellow has got to go because he’s a clear and present danger to our liberty and to our Constitution; without that, you cannot and should not impeach a President, because to do so is to call into question the legitimacy of all our political institutions and to make this the most divisive thing in American public life since the war in Vietnam.
O’Donnell: Mr. Nadler, Mr. Nadler, thank you so much for participating in tonight’s impeachment debate. I’m Dan O’Donnell. Thank you for watching.